Deposit on Blackface Lincoln Welder
This is only to pay the $1,000.00 Deposit and get the Unit started into Production
Lincoln Blackface SA-200 Welder
Comes with Idle Upgrade and wired with Remote Outlet
Normal Lead Time about 10-12 Weeks after Deposit
Unit will be assigned year once Deposit is made.
Normal Paint Schemes is Black/White/Red/Grey
Total Cost of a refurbished Blackface Welder thru Production is:
$5,000.00 + tax. ($5,325.00) Total
Less this $1,000.00 deposit
Leaving balanced owed after Deposit of $4,325.00
REDFACE is a term used to identify certain types of welders. When I first started working on LINCOLN WELDERS – Some assumed that the term REDFACE was only for the 1960s Sa-200 welders that had the orange/red face plate. Well it has turned out that the term outgrew the original obvious description.
A LINCOLN REDFACE can be used to describe any LINCOLN WELDER that has COPPER SHUNTS (COPPER COILS). All LINCOLN SA-200 WELDERS before 1973 are REDFACES-this includes SHORT-HOODS. All FACEPLATE serial numbers from D-1 up to A-707588 are also all REDFACES.
In 1973 and 1974 not all, but a lot of the welders got ALUMINUM Coils, probably because the Aluminum was a lot cheaper. Most of these welders have been repaired at some point, since their build date. They are not to be referred to as REDFACES unless the shunts have been changed to copper.
LATER MODELS had copper shunts from 1975 through 1979, or at least they are SUPPOSED to have copper shunts, but I never have got a straight answer from LINCOLN on this. But of course, the people who assembled theses welders originally are more than likely retired. Also said that they started using a alloy (aluminum and copper) and it was also told that the new wire was aluminum electroplated with copper. And people tell me they are redfaces and they are wound with copper. Many welders say that if your serious about welding, then you have to have a redface! The term redface welder is used to refer to a Lincoln sa 200 all-copper-wound welder. The thing that makes them in such demand is not just the copper winding’s, but that they have actually become somewhat of a collectors item with all the nostalgia of an old Harley. They are called a redface welding machine because well…they have a red faceplate.
It’s the copper windings that makes them in extremely sought after. Pipe-liners typically burn rod after rod after rod and when you are laying in root passes for a living, sure you need finesse and a soft touch, but you also want a welder that welds the same on the first rod as it does on the 27th rod. At some point Lincoln starting using aluminum, or even copper flashed aluminum wire. It is said that most of the redface welding machines have 100% copper winds in the generator and most of the blackfaces don’t. But…you can’t tell for sure whether a Lincoln sa200 has copper windings because many of them that were manufactured with aluminum wire have been rebuilt with copper windings. There are even electric shops that specialize in stuff like restoring old redface welders. The only problem with the ones with aluminum in them is that they start off the day like any redface sa 200 but then as they warm up you have to keep turning up your remote more to get the same heat. Then you stop for a coffee bread and they cool off again.. and you have to go through the amperage changing thing all over again.
Most of the time you can tell from the below:
Redface Armature case is round and Blackface case is Octagon shape.
Redface Lead Terminals are on the front face of the machine and Blackface are on the side.
Sometimes the faceplates will be red or black, but not always a sure tell.